Yea, I think we had this debate a little while ago on another thread. I agree completely. Their ERA's and WHIP's are comparable and Timmy has more strikeouts and wins. The big thing though is that this is Greinke's first really great season as you mentioned. Timmy, with the Cy Young already and possibly a second this season, has to get the nod over Greinke. I guess people will argue that the AL has better hitters and more potent lineups, but Timmy handled the Phillies' lineup pretty well.